Ep 13 – Hassan Karim, Evan Tanotogono and Tris Rasika – Jakarta Roundtable – The Tipping Point is Where We Can Serve the Whole Value Chain


Theresa is the founder of the Asia InsurTech Podcast and a Thought Leader on innovation in insurance in Asia. She has worked for ten years for leading multinational insurers in Europe and Asia before turning to management consulting and venture building with the goal of transforming the insurance industry and helping shape its future in the region.

Hassan Karim

Originally from the UK, Hassan Karim, is a Chartered Insurer, Chartered FinTech Professional, Qualified Risk Professional (QRGP), & Forrester CX-Pr, Ex CEO, CMO, and CUO. Prior to his current role as the Head of Strategy for APAC, was the CEO & President Director of PT. Zurich Asuransi Indonesia TBK (a public, non-listed, entity formerly known as Adira Insurance) & before that PT. Zurich Insurance Indonesia (ZII), as well as serving as a corporate board director. He previously held Senior Executive roles in UK/London, Hong Kong, Indonesia & Global Underwriting operating at Country, Region & Global levels.

An InsurTech enthusiast who recently entered the world of entrepreneurship. Previously the Head of Digital at Sequis Life, a leading Indonesian Insurer, having built the digital business unit from scratch to a sustainable business in 3 years. Prior to joining insurance, Evan led the marketplace business team in Tokopedia and worked with The Boston Consulting Group. Evan holds a certification in Qualified Chief Risk Officer (QCRO) and a Master Degree in Medical Instrumentation. Prior to joining Sequis, Evan led the Marketplace Category team of Tokopedia and was accountable for defining marketplace strategy roadmap and establishing business operations. Evan started his career with The Boston Consulting Group, focusing on People & Organization, Operations, and Strategy topics.

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For this week’s episode, we sat down with Insurance Thought Leaders live in Jakarta and discussed innovation happening in the insurance industry in Indonesia. The panel discussion was joined by Hassan Karim, President Director of Zurich Insurance Indonesia, Evan Tanotogono, Head of Digital Channel at Sequis Life and Tris Rasika, Country Director Indonesia at GoBear. The experts provide first-hand insight into the Indonesian insurance markets and how they are changing and evolving.

The panel explores several topics from the current state of insurance companies through regulatory and customer perspectives to the importance of data analytics for the growth of the industry. What are the possible reasons why the insurance market penetration in Indonesia is still considerably low when compared to other Asian countries and what should insurers do to solve the issues? How should existing traditional insurance companies deal with disruption coming from InsurTech?

The panel also discusses whether it is possible for Indonesia to become the birthplace of InsurTech unicorn as the country does for other industries such as GoJek, Traveloka, and Tokopedia.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

Zurich Insurance Indonesia

Sequis Life







Author: Chadhaporn Angpraphapornchai

Episode 13